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Friday, December 08, 2006
Disappointed...but expected
Well I finally heard from my midwife yesterday and since I have had two c-sections she can no longer take me as a client. I had a feeling that this would be the case but without knowing there was still hope, but now that hope is all gone. It is sad to me that not only will it be unlikely to find a doctor who will even allow me to attempt a VBAC (in fact most if not almost all of the doctors here in town won't even do a VBAC after only one c-section)but most sad that our midwife will not be envolved with this pregnancy. I have absolutly loved our midwife. She was a perfect fit for our family. She delievered my first son. Did a couple of prenatal visits with my second son than we moved to Ohio. We had one midwife who delivered our second son who than retired and so we had a different midwife deliver our 3rd son. We moved back here to Texas and she did all the prenatals on my 4th, and 5th sons and our 1st daughter. Although she did not actually deliver the last three. She did stay by my side throughout my entire birth of my 4th son. We went to hospital for a non-stress test,as I was two weeks late, and since the doctors didn't want me to leave they lied to us and induced my labor (of course they admited they had no evidence to support what they said after it was too late for me to leave and that I didn't have the pre-eclampsea that they said I did). I was induced with pitocin and NO epidual or pain meds. This was the most horrible pain I have ever endured and I had severe back labor in several labors not to mention my daughter putting her shoulder in my back for the entire time I was in labor. Still not as bad as being induced. But our midwife was there for me the entire time. She wanted me to have a girl just about as much as I did and rejoiced with me when we found out I was having one. She has been wonderful and it is sad to know that she will not be a part of this pregnancy. Now starts the task of trying to find a doctor that I can trust. I have not had a good experience with doctors who deliever babies. Let's see being lied to, being told that I was being mistreated by my midwife who didn't have my best intrest at heart, etc. This is a very scary prospect to me and I don't know exactly where to start. I do know that I will be calling my midwife to see what she knows about the doctors in town and do know that I will not be using the doctor that delievered Katie since he is in practice with a doctor our midwife refers to as dr. Evil and from everything I have heard that is a well earned title.

  posted at 12/08/2006  

At December 08, 2006 9:05 AM, Blogger Kili @ Live Each Moment said...

My first baby was 9lb 14 oz and this one I'm sure will not be smaller. I am not going to attempt a VBAC although there are 2 docs here in the mid Oklahoma area that will do them. My husband is going into the medical field and he doesn't want me too, he knows the risks and they are MUCH higher than a c-section.

At December 08, 2006 1:53 PM, Blogger Audrey said...

How cool, I didnt realize you lived in Texas as well. If you are in NE Texas I know a midwife that I believe would deliver you VBAC. I told her, when we thought this pregnancy might be twins, "that I would not go to the hospital to deliver" and she had no problem with delivering them for me at home. She is awesome. If your not, I can ask her, if you would like, if she knows of any one in your area that might consider it. I see her again on the 14th.

Of course you can always take the unassisted route. It is a wonderful way to deliver a baby!

I dont think, unless it was life or death that I could ever consider a hospital birth again.

The Lord will work it out!! I'll be praying for you!

At December 08, 2006 2:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll pose a question to those who've had c-sections. I've had 3 c-sections (3 babies) and we're preganant again. How many c-sections can we have? Should this be our last baby??? The doctor previously indicated 4 was a maximum but now seems to indicate we might be able to have more. My husband and I are very conflicated about this. I also had a tumor removed 4 months after the birth of the last one and I'm worried that another tumor may grow this time, which will probably make this definitely our last baby! I'd like some input from others that are/will face this decision too (maybe).

(no blog, with 3 kids 5 and under I just haven't found the time yet!)

At December 09, 2006 7:23 PM, Anonymous Robin said...

I'll be praying that you find the right doctor. That's a hard thing. Something to ask about: My midwife will accompany a client to the hospital to be a support and offer her advice about necessary interventions. If a hospital birth became necessary for me, I would feel much better with her there in this capacity. Maybe your midwife would be willing to function in this role - to be a mediator and helper while you're dealing with the doctor?

At December 10, 2006 7:36 AM, Blogger michelle said...

The issue with the tumors may affect your decision and I have no imput on that but as far as c-sections go. I have read that Ethel Kennedy had 7 c-sections at a time when c-sections were less safe. Hers were all top - bottom c-sections and not bikini cut ones. Those are more dangerous. This is what I know.

Robin - Yes, our midwife will also go that in fact she basicly ended up doing that for our 4th child that was induced as my husband was unable to get to the hospital in time for the birth. I don't know what I would have done without her. That is an idea to think about.

Audrey - No I do not live in NE Texas but in south central texas. Our midwife after our 1st c-section was going to so a VBAC in fact I was dialated to 9 cms and had been in labor for some time. But my water had been broke for 24 hours and my contracts at that point had all but stoped. She said that there were some things we could try but no guarantee they would work and we would still end up in the hospital. She said that with my water being broke for so long that she thought that going to hospital was a good thing for all involved. She said it would have been different if I was still having strong contractions, but that I had tried everything to get our baby to move into a more favorable possition without her really moving. SO we went. Of course, once there the doctors were appaled that we didn't have a c-section to begin with and that we had even attemped a VBAC especially with a midwife. She was saying that she can't not do a 2nd c-section VBAC legally and that with my history for the last two (geting to 9 cm or complete and then basicly stopping) that it was probably safer to go with a doctor. I trust her opinion. I don't think that I could handle a planned unassisted birth. I would be so afraid that something bad would happen and we wouldn't reconise it until it was too late.

At December 10, 2006 11:41 AM, Blogger Kim C. said...

Sorry to hear this!
Have you asked your midwife if she can recommend a doctor who will give you a good try at a VBAC? My midwife might be able to suggest a good doctor, too.

About multiple c-sections, I think most people in the medical profession will tell you anything to keep you from having "too many" children. They try to tell mothers that it's very dangerous to give birth more than 4 or 5 times even if they have never had complications!
A quiver-full RN that I used to know staunchly maintained that every c-section is like the 2nd one because they cut out the scar tissue each time: you never have "old" scar tissue.
And I researched the dangers of VBAC for the sake of my sister. I found NO conclusive evidence anywhere on the internet that the dangers of VBAC outweigh a c-section - even the people doing large studies on the subject couldn't find the evidence and consistent numbers they were looking for.
For every study seeming to indicate one answer there was an equal and opposite study.
I did learn that uterine rupture (the primary danger) is relatively common even w/o a previous c-section (1% w/o previous, 2% for vbac), and is usually so minor it goes undetected until much later. It is rarely the life-threatening event that doctors paint it to be.
Yes, I admit the Internet is not the most reliable source of documented info, but you'd think that if it were an established fact it would be easy enough to find some hard numbers, wouldn't you?


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